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		<title>By: johnscotthaydon</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-1/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>johnscotthaydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Brian&lt;/strong&gt; - I&#039;m not sick of you. But that&#039;s only because I never read your blog. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Brian</strong> &#8211; I&#8217;m not sick of you. But that&#8217;s only because I never read your blog. <img src='http://johnhaydon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian Clark</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you may be talking about the game more than playing it, you know?

Just something to think about.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Brian Clark’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.copyblogger.com/~r/Copyblogger/~3/NHZy0UYMzSM/&quot;&gt;Content Marketing Gets Real: Sonia Interviews Naomi Dunford of IttyBiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may be talking about the game more than playing it, you know?</p>
<p>Just something to think about.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Brian Clark’s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.copyblogger.com/~r/Copyblogger/~3/NHZy0UYMzSM/">Content Marketing Gets Real: Sonia Interviews Naomi Dunford of IttyBiz</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Clark</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-1/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll do my part and never speak at a conference again. If you think you&#039;re sick of me, imagine how sick I am of myself. :)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Brian Clark’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.copyblogger.com/~r/Copyblogger/~3/NHZy0UYMzSM/&quot;&gt;Content Marketing Gets Real: Sonia Interviews Naomi Dunford of IttyBiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll do my part and never speak at a conference again. If you think you&#8217;re sick of me, imagine how sick I am of myself. <img src='http://johnhaydon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em>Brian Clark’s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.copyblogger.com/~r/Copyblogger/~3/NHZy0UYMzSM/">Content Marketing Gets Real: Sonia Interviews Naomi Dunford of IttyBiz</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ashley K. Edwards</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-1/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley K. Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Danny Brown  Thanks for the props.  More than anything, I fully believe in our company and especially our event so I just want to make sure folks have a solid understanding of who we are.  Plus I just love engaging with people!  :)

And yes...I believe &quot;social media personalities&quot; might be a better-suited term to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Danny Brown  Thanks for the props.  More than anything, I fully believe in our company and especially our event so I just want to make sure folks have a solid understanding of who we are.  Plus I just love engaging with people!  <img src='http://johnhaydon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And yes&#8230;I believe &#8220;social media personalities&#8221; might be a better-suited term to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Brown</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-1/#comment-2049</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Beth Harte. That&#039;s not a bad idea, Beth. Almost like the trade shows that open up to the public on the last day? Then you could tailor the speakers to the attendees. Definitely worth looking at.

@Ashley. Great to see IZEA looking out for their brand, Ashley - now where are the organizers of SobCON and #140Conf? ;-)

Perhaps we&#039;re using the wrong terminology? You mention that you go with &quot;Internet personalities&quot; to counter the cost and effort needed to put on the events.

But wouldn&#039;t it be better to call them &quot;social media personalities&quot;? To me, an Internet personality would be someone like Tim Berners-Lee - now THAT would garner my interest.

Although I tend to agree with what others have said in that perhaps some juggling of the names is needed. Instead of just having social media marketers or PR types involved, get the grass root people as well.

Lesser-known industries and niches and the people in them quite often have as interesting, if not more so, things to say.

Cheers! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Beth Harte. That&#8217;s not a bad idea, Beth. Almost like the trade shows that open up to the public on the last day? Then you could tailor the speakers to the attendees. Definitely worth looking at.</p>
<p>@Ashley. Great to see IZEA looking out for their brand, Ashley &#8211; now where are the organizers of SobCON and #140Conf? <img src='http://johnhaydon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Perhaps we&#8217;re using the wrong terminology? You mention that you go with &#8220;Internet personalities&#8221; to counter the cost and effort needed to put on the events.</p>
<p>But wouldn&#8217;t it be better to call them &#8220;social media personalities&#8221;? To me, an Internet personality would be someone like Tim Berners-Lee &#8211; now THAT would garner my interest.</p>
<p>Although I tend to agree with what others have said in that perhaps some juggling of the names is needed. Instead of just having social media marketers or PR types involved, get the grass root people as well.</p>
<p>Lesser-known industries and niches and the people in them quite often have as interesting, if not more so, things to say.</p>
<p>Cheers! <img src='http://johnhaydon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: johnscotthaydon</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnscotthaydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Giovanna&lt;/strong&gt; - Same here! Can&#039;t wait to see the new header.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Giovanna</strong> &#8211; Same here! Can&#8217;t wait to see the new header.</p>
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		<title>By: Giovanna Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giovanna Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was great meeting you at SOBcon ‘09.
Thanks for the advice on the business cards, and me and my assitant love your c.d.  :-)
I look forward to getting to know you better.
Have a great day!
Giovanna Garcia
Imperfect Action is better than no Action</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great meeting you at SOBcon ‘09.<br />
Thanks for the advice on the business cards, and me and my assitant love your c.d.  <img src='http://johnhaydon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I look forward to getting to know you better.<br />
Have a great day!<br />
Giovanna Garcia<br />
Imperfect Action is better than no Action</p>
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		<title>By: johnscotthaydon</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-/#comment-2039</link>
		<dc:creator>johnscotthaydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ashley and @Ari - My two cents?

If conferences all have the same &quot;well-known and well respected&quot; presenters, then all conferences are pretty much the same. After a while, we all begin to spout the same stuff - and nothing new is invented!

So diversity is the key.

&lt;strong&gt;Diversity within the niche: &lt;/strong&gt;Ari and Danny don&#039;t have the star power that Brogan has but are just as insightful (IMO).
&lt;strong&gt;Diversity outside the niche: &lt;/strong&gt;I&#039;d love to see the president of Sam Adams Brewery or the inventor of the Segue scooter speak!

What is the intent of the organizers - &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;$$$ or Value?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ashley and @Ari &#8211; My two cents?</p>
<p>If conferences all have the same &#8220;well-known and well respected&#8221; presenters, then all conferences are pretty much the same. After a while, we all begin to spout the same stuff &#8211; and nothing new is invented!</p>
<p>So diversity is the key.</p>
<p><strong>Diversity within the niche: </strong>Ari and Danny don&#8217;t have the star power that Brogan has but are just as insightful (IMO).<br />
<strong>Diversity outside the niche: </strong>I&#8217;d love to see the president of Sam Adams Brewery or the inventor of the Segue scooter speak!</p>
<p>What is the intent of the organizers &#8211; <strong><em>$$$ or Value?</em></strong></p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley K. Edwards</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-1/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley K. Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ari Herzog  Good questions!

Firstly, to me a well-known personality would be someone who has a loyal audience, is largely recognized--and respected--by others in what they do and the space they&#039;re in, and is also an influencer.  I&#039;m not personally familiar with everyone on this list but I&#039;m sure some fit this description - I believe Chris Brogan does.

Secondly, I would say we determine value as it&#039;s relevant to our audience/community, and who they recognize and want to interact with at an event.  Ultimately, IZEAFest is an event that we host so that those attending (and engaging virtually) can learn to monetize their blogs, grow traffic, develop and grow their brand, and if we book individuals who have not only done those things themselves but done them well and have been influencers in their space...then that&#039;s where the value exists.  Me...personally...I would never attempt to put a value on any one person, but when I mention &quot;value&quot; it is simply referring to their relevance to our event.

I hope this helps clarify!  If not, you&#039;re welcome to respond or e-mail me directly at ashley[at]izea[dot]com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ari Herzog  Good questions!</p>
<p>Firstly, to me a well-known personality would be someone who has a loyal audience, is largely recognized&#8211;and respected&#8211;by others in what they do and the space they&#8217;re in, and is also an influencer.  I&#8217;m not personally familiar with everyone on this list but I&#8217;m sure some fit this description &#8211; I believe Chris Brogan does.</p>
<p>Secondly, I would say we determine value as it&#8217;s relevant to our audience/community, and who they recognize and want to interact with at an event.  Ultimately, IZEAFest is an event that we host so that those attending (and engaging virtually) can learn to monetize their blogs, grow traffic, develop and grow their brand, and if we book individuals who have not only done those things themselves but done them well and have been influencers in their space&#8230;then that&#8217;s where the value exists.  Me&#8230;personally&#8230;I would never attempt to put a value on any one person, but when I mention &#8220;value&#8221; it is simply referring to their relevance to our event.</p>
<p>I hope this helps clarify!  If not, you&#8217;re welcome to respond or e-mail me directly at ashley[at]izea[dot]com.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
		<link>http://johnhaydon.com/2009/05/oversubscribed/comment-page-1/#comment-2040</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What we try to do with our event, though, is make it affordable yet packed with value…and something different than other “conferences.” We do that by keeping our event still somewhat small, and give attendees the opportunity to network and engage directly with these well-known Internet personalities - and experts at what they do.&lt;/em&gt;

Ashley, how do you define a &quot;well-known Internet personality?&quot; Would you group Danny Brown or John Haydon in that category? Would any of the other commenters on this post be an internet personality?

Considering one person&#039;s value is another&#039;s silliness, how do you and IZEA determine networking value?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ari Herzog’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ariwriter/~3/EzkxV7qJfJs/&quot;&gt;Internet Business Owners to Pay Taxes?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What we try to do with our event, though, is make it affordable yet packed with value…and something different than other “conferences.” We do that by keeping our event still somewhat small, and give attendees the opportunity to network and engage directly with these well-known Internet personalities &#8211; and experts at what they do.</em></p>
<p>Ashley, how do you define a &#8220;well-known Internet personality?&#8221; Would you group Danny Brown or John Haydon in that category? Would any of the other commenters on this post be an internet personality?</p>
<p>Considering one person&#8217;s value is another&#8217;s silliness, how do you and IZEA determine networking value?</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ari Herzog’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ariwriter/~3/EzkxV7qJfJs/">Internet Business Owners to Pay Taxes?</a></em></abbr></p>
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